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Subject: Hospital BuildingsFrom: Victor Ferreira <victor@FA.UTL.PT>Reply-To: spacesyntax@jiscmail.ac.ukDate: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:32:35 +0000  Hello everyone, I'm participating in a research project on"Interdisciplinary Analysis of Sign & Guidance Systems in Hospitals", in Lisbon, Portugal.大家好，我正在在里斯本，葡萄牙。参加一项有关“医院的标志和引导系统的跨学科分析”。The research will try to establish a model that will enable the understanding of the main difficulties about the use of these facilities.Since I'm starting to use the space syntax tools, and don't have much experience with them, i don't know which could be the best tool for this particular purpose.该研究将尝试建立一个模型，以使了解使用这些设施的主要困难。由于我开始使用空间句法工具，并且没有太多关于空间句法的使用经验，我不知道这是不是适应于这个特殊的目标的最好的工具。I see axman used in a lot of studies of large buildings, but also some use of Pesh, and lately of VGA. I have the first ones, and VGA i'll be trying to use it shortly.我看到axman在大型建筑物的许多研究中使用过，但也有一些案例使用了Pesh，以及最近的VGA。我已经尝试了axman的使用，并且近期我会尝试使用VGA分析。 We were curious also about spatialist but Prof. Peponis seems hard to catchtrough is email and i never succeeded in licensing it!我们也对空间论者感到好奇，但是Peponis教授似乎很难通过电子邮件联系，我从未成功获得授权并取得联系！ We will focus our study in three Portuguese Hospitals, of three differenttime periods, each one representative of his "kind". The more recent one will be a contemporary building. They are all very large and at least one,with the services spread trough several contiguous buildings.我们将把研究重点放在葡萄牙的三家医院上，它们代表着三个不同时间段，每个医院都能够代表他的“种类”。最新的一座医院建筑将是一栋当代建筑。它们都很大，或者说至少有一个很大，其中的医院服务通过几座连续的建筑物散布开来。 Anyone has some experience in something similar and could give me some wordof advice? Anyone with some experience in the tools could give me somehints in which would be a better option? Would it be interesting to usemore than one of them?Wouldn't Axman and Pesh give similar results in this kind of use?Thank you for your time and attention,如果任何人有类似的经验，可以给我一些建议吗？任何在空间句法工具方面有经验的人都可以给我一些提示，例如哪种方法更好的选择？如果使用不止一种分析方式会很有趣吗？在这种使用中，Axman和Pesh不会给出类似的结果吗？谢谢您的时间和关注， Victor FerreiraFaculty of Architecture, Lisbon, Portugal维克多·费雷拉葡萄牙里斯本建筑学院

Subject: Re: Hospital BuildingsFrom: Alan Penn <a.penn@UCL.AC.UK>Reply-To: spacesyntax@jiscmail.ac.ukDate: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:27:11 -0000 Victor, I would use axial analysis and VGA together.我会同时使用轴向分析和VGA。Axial analysis allows you to map complete circulation systems including routes between buildings in a hospital campus. We have done this previously in various hospital studies - mainly related to general circulation and to crime and security, with good results. 轴向分析使您能够绘制完整的循环系统，包括医院园区中建筑物之间的路线。我们之前在各种医院研究中都这样做过-主要与普遍流通以及犯罪和安全有关，并且获得了不错的结果。Axial integration for the main route structure correlates with movement patterns, but often with outlier spaces - this is because of the timetabled programme in hospitals which leads to specific attractors of movement gaining higher flows at specific times. 主要路线结构的轴线整合与运动模式相关，但通常存在离群空间-这是因为医院的时间表计划导致特定的运动吸引点在特定时间获得更高的流量。Perhaps this is one of the signage issues - how to direct people most easily to the locations they need to get to when the buildings are often very unintelligible. For this kind of thing in previous urban signage related projects we have looked at the visual field within which the sign itself sits. The strategy here is to find locations in which a sign brings the right information for route decisions that must be taken. 也许这是有关标牌问题其中的一个点——如何最轻松地将人们引导到他们需要的位置，当建筑物常常非常难以理解时。对于这种在之前的城市标牌相关项目中标牌本身所在的视野。这里的策略是找到标牌为路线决策提供正确信息的位置必须采取的措施。VGA analyses the 'isovist' from each location and can be used to help this process. My main thought on this is that nothing in the way of the analysis tools alone will replace careful thinking and observation of the way people move, where they pause and look for information, where they ask the way, and where they turn back and try a different route. How much of these behavious can be accounted for by the specific morphology of the plan, and how much by the textual information available? Understanding this would put you in a good position to begin to specify signage procedures and standards.VGA从每个位置分析“等视域”，并且可以用于帮助此过程。我对此的主要想法是，仅仅使用分析工具不能取代仔细的思考和观察人们的移动方式，他们停下来寻找的信息标牌的地方，他们问路的地方以及他们回头尝试不同的路线的地方。有多少这样的行为可以解释平面的具体形态，以及有多少的标牌文本信息可以帮助这些行为。了解这一点将使您处于良好的起点来指定标牌程序和标准。  All the best,祝一切顺利， Alan艾伦

Subject: Re: Hospital BuildingsFrom: Sophia Psarra <PsarraS@CARDIFF.AC.UK>Reply-To: spacesyntax@jiscmail.ac.ukDate: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 11:21:55 +0000 >>> victor@FA.UTL.PT 02/12/03 00:36 AM >>>Dear Victor, There has been a research project in the School of Architecture in Cardiff focusing on hospital layouts in Wales. (conducted by Dr Tadeusz Grajewski and Adrian Eggleton). The project dealt with 8 hospital buildings and investigated the time staff spent on movement in conjunction with a space syntax analysis of the layouts.Cardiff建筑学院有一个研究项目重点关注威尔士的医院布局。（由Tadeusz Grajewski博士和Adrian Eggleton博士领导）。该项目处理了8座医院建筑并进行了调查工作人员花在运动上的时间以及对空间语法的分析布局。 A Phd study has been also based on this project which I am currently supervising. For more information you should contact Adrian Eggleton who worked on this research project. I will try to get hold of his email addressand come back to you. Should you wish to contact me I am currently based at theBartlett on a sabbatical leave. My email addresses are:sophia@spacedesign.demon.co.uk and PsarraS@Cardiff.ac.uk 我也基于这个项目进行了博士研究，目前在正在进行监督。有关更多信息，请联系在这个研究项目上工作的人——Adrian Eggleton。我会设法获取到他的电子邮件地址然后告诉你。我目前在巴特利特休假，如果您想与我联系。我的电子邮件地址是：sophia@spacedesign.demon.co.uk和PsarraS@Cardiff.ac.uk  Regards Dr Sophia PsarraWelsh School of ArchitecturedUniversity of Cardiff, WalesBute BuildingKing Edward VII AvenueCardiff CF10 3APTel: 029 20875982亲爱的维克多，  问候 索菲亚·普萨拉博士威尔士建筑学院威尔士卡迪夫大学Bute大厦爱德华七世国王大道卡迪夫CF10 3AP电话：029 20875982